http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/11/09/t4cw_dave_marcus.mp3 T4CW 11.2.09: Dave Marcus on an Educational Rite of Passage http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11/09/18628218.php 2009-11-09 http://www.odeo.complaceholder-podcast.jpg