In part 2 of our retrospective on Michael jackson and the Jackson 5 we are joined by Chuck D of Public Enemy who gives an insightful break down of the political influences that helped shaped Jackson music.

Chuck talks about the important role Gamble and Huff played in pushing Mike and his brothers. Author Ricky Vincent talks about how the message in the music is part of a much larger tradition within Black music.

Chuck D also talks about how some of Michael jacksons records which were used as breakbeats influenced him and made him embrace Hip hop more. In particular is the vintage cut 'Music's Taking Over'

Chuck also talks about the sample they used from MJ in the song By The Time I get to Arizona.

Chuck also talks about the important influence Michael jackson had in the realm of videos.

We play lots of Jacksons political songs as well as the cuts that inspired Chuck D.

We conclude the interview by talking about MJs War with Sony Music, his charitable works and the importance of being named the King of Pop.

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