http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/cdn.conversationsnetwork.org/ITC.Rails-HanssonKemperKozarski-2008.09.02.mp3 Heinemeier Hansson, Kemper, Koziarski - Q&A with the Rails Core Team http://feeds.conversationsnetwork.org/~r/channel/itc/~3/pdjLv_RX4Ag/detail3986.html 2009-02-22 http://assets.conversationsnetwork.org/channels/ITConversations/itc-300x300.jpg