http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/forum/2006/10/2006-10-09a-forum.mp3 ACLU's Dorothy Ehrlich http://www.kqed.org/epArchive/R610090900?itemMD5=f21814c3287348950a0470f95fc416d1 2006-10-09 http://www.odeo.complaceholder-podcast.jpg