http://feeds.wnyc.org/~r/wnyc_lopate/~5/164883695/lopate100307apod.mp3 Chris Matthews on What We Can Learn from Politicians (The Leonard Lopate Show: Wednesday, 03 October 2007) http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2007/10/03/segments/86494 2007-10-03 http://www.wnyc.org/images/podcast/lopate.jpg