http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/forum/2007/06/2007-06-27b-forum.mp3 Democratic Consultant Robert Shrum http://www.kqed.org/epArchive/R706271000?itemMD5=d0401892fc43f92c48b73b01357cf98c 2007-06-27 http://www.odeo.complaceholder-podcast.jpg